The US mass shooting thread

Web Diva said:
www.theguardian.com

Man arrested in Maine shootings that left four dead and three wounded

Those killed were all in a home in the town of Bowdoin, and the others were randomly fired upon 20 miles away on a highway
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Here you go....Really awful...and worse where you think you should be safe, you're not.
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Thanks, will read it when I get a chance! :) Just have a lot to catch up on :cool:

I was having a debate with my father the other day. I was saying technically I bet no place in the USA is safe, as it's probable that some states would naturally have more resourceful and effectively distributed policing than other states.

However, a member mentioned that certain US states such as Chicago have very strict gun laws. I thought the gun laws are the same for all US states. I only learnt recently that each state has separate gun laws. So I suppose that is the reason why some US states have more gun crime than others.

What are your views, I'm sure you can fill me in more as you live in the states? :)
 
~ True Legend ~ said:
In Alabama:

www.bbc.com

Alabama shooting: Phil Dowdell died saving sister's life

Alexis Dowdell tells the BBC her 18-year-old brother pushed her to the floor as gunfire erupted.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Why do bad things happen to good ppl? :(
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Update:

Two teenage boys have been charged with murder after the shooting at a 16th birthday party in Alabama that killed four and injured 32 over the weekend.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Teen brothers among six charged in Alabama party killings

Four young partygoers were killed and 32 injured, but police still can't say what happened.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Web Diva said:
I'm glad to hear they have been arrested! Thanks for the update!
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Me too, and you're welcome! It's still on my radar to read your post. Again, lots of news to catch up with, haha!

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The FBI said they are hunting for a man accused of killing five of his neighbours in Texas after an argument about him practice-shooting nearby.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Francisco Oropeza: FBI hunt 'armed and dangerous' Texas shooting suspect

Francisco Oropeza is accused of killing five of his neighbours in Texas, including an eight-year-old.
www.bbc.co.uk

He allegedly opened fire on his neighbours after they asked him to stop shooting because they were trying to put a baby to sleep.

The victims were all from Honduras, and included an eight-year-old child.
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Some people are crazy!

The local sheriff's office said it initially received a call about "harassment".

Investigators believe that the victims had asked Mr Oropeza, who it is thought had been drinking, to stop shooting as a baby was trying to sleep.
Police say the suspect replied: "I'll shoot out in my front yard, do what I want to in my own residence."

After both parties returned to their houses, the gunman "topped off his magazine, and walked down his driveway... into the people's house and started shooting," Sheriff Capers earlier said.
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Every time I see something about another shooting in the US I say the same thing, they need to ban guns, end of. The problem you get from those in the US is that they instantly jump and talk about their rights and why should they have their rights taken because of someone who shot up a school or a cinema or a club or any public place.

Oh so no thought for those innocent people who were just killed but you worry about your rights to have a weapon in your house.

Honestly, if they banned guns they would be able to control it better.
 
Shortie said:
Every time I see something about another shooting in the US I say the same thing, they need to ban guns, end of. The problem you get from those in the US is that they instantly jump and talk about their rights and why should they have their rights taken because of someone who shot up a school or a cinema or a club or any public place.

Oh so no thought for those innocent people who were just killed but you worry about your rights to have a weapon in your house.

Honestly, if they banned guns they would be able to control it better.
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Very true - you may like this thread: https://debatehq.net/threads/usa-gun-laws.128/
 
While it makes sense that no one should have a gun, the argument and this has always been the problem is how do you get the guns from the bad guys. Bad guys won't give up their guns. Now you have innocent people under threat of being killed in a public setting because there isn't anyone armed to help against the bad guys. Maybe a different system that allows or disallows Americans to be armed, raise the age, have multiple people (as in friends and family) sign off for a gun purchase to the person wanting to purchase the gun. It's a complex problem and since Covid started there are more unstable people. The economy doesn't help either.
 
Web Diva said:
While it makes sense that no one should have a gun, the argument and this has always been the problem is how do you get the guns from the bad guys. Bad guys won't give up their guns. Now you have innocent people under threat of being killed in a public setting because there isn't anyone armed to help against the bad guys. Maybe a different system that allows or disallows Americans to be armed, raise the age, have multiple people (as in friends and family) sign off for a gun purchase to the person wanting to purchase the gun. It's a complex problem and since Covid started there are more unstable people. The economy doesn't help either.
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I ranted about that point in the linked thread ;)
 
Nine dead, three in critical condition after shooting at Texas outlet mall
Nine people, including the suspect, have died after a shooting at a Dallas-area outlet mall, Texas officials announced. Jonathan Boyd, Allen Fire Department Chief, said that seven people were pronounced dead on the scene, and nine were transported to the hospital, where two later died.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smtkeDeYOeM

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What is wrong with people. See if I can find more on the subject.
 
fords8 said:
Nine dead, three in critical condition after shooting at Texas outlet mall
Nine people, including the suspect, have died after a shooting at a Dallas-area outlet mall, Texas officials announced. Jonathan Boyd, Allen Fire Department Chief, said that seven people were pronounced dead on the scene, and nine were transported to the hospital, where two later died.
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What is wrong with people. See if I can find more on the subject.
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People are broken, then you have the narcissistic monsters, gangs, the cartel deeply embedded in the US, or especially people with all of the Dark Triad in their personality, where they have zero empathy or feelings towards humanity, you get tragedies like yesterday. People's lives are changed forever every time these shootings happen.

Dark Triad

Dark Triad

The term “Dark Triad” refers to a trio of negative personality traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy—which share some common malevolent features. The construct was coined by researchers Delroy L. Paulhus and Kevin M. Williams in 2002.
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A deep dive in second amendment discussions at Friend's Realm and extra details about the tragedy in Allen, Texas and maybe a motive to "why did this happen"?

Why did this happen? The gunman, whose name has been not released publicly, is rumored to be part of a Dallas prison gang, Tango Blast.
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A bit of more local news (below link) where a man was a first responder father at the mall. You can't unsee the carnage he described so watch with caution or not at all. It's very moving and puts up front how really horrifying each one of these mass shootings really are.

www.cbsnews.com

Man who witnessed Allen outlet mall shooting describes carnage: 'It's just unfathomable'

Steven Spainhouer said he found a child, who survived while covered by his protective mother who had been killed.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

I'm deeply disturbed today and have been by the amount of violence escalating in America.
 
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