Should prison be less of a luxury?

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I am amazed at how many people tend to re-offend after they have been released from prison and their reason for doing so is that it's better for them in prison than it is out.

From my understanding, they get so much more in their cells in some countries now than they ever used to and it seems more of a luxury for them rather than a punishment. Due to this, they would rather be back in there over being out of prison and living life as everyone else.

Should prison be less of a luxury for those who commit crimes?
 
Personally, I believe that prisons should be less of a luxury for those who commit crimes because if they are not suffering well in the prison, there's no need to have them in there. It's called a correction centre or facilities and shouldn't be a place of fun. Imagine giving crime offenders the opportunity to play video games like seriously? Why wouldn't they keep committing crimes to be sent back to slammer?
 
That can only happen in the American society because the United States believes so much in the dignity of humans. There are other countries that just a day in their prisons, you would guard your entire existence never to be found there. I have been in a police cell and it's some place I don't ever want to go again, what more of a prison.
 
Prisons in the US suck, despite being better than ones in third world nations. I mean, the food is terrible, there's a threat of rape, and racist gangs are everywhere. Given this situation, though, how are a few luxuries really going to matter? So what if an inmate gets a TV or primitive video game in his/her cell?
 
Demon_skeith said:
They do seem to somewhat need to scale down and not make it so luxurious. People in there committed crimes, robbing others of a peaceful life or even life itself. Prison should be fearful of everyone to go to.
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This is my backing when it comes to what a prison life should be like. It shouldn't be made to look like a runway place for those who committed crime to go and enjoy themselves in any way. They should all be made to suffer there.
 
Some people in prisons are homeless and have no friends outside prison life thereby making prisons the only place they see as home. Some prisoners are psychologically unbalanced to fit in day to day normal human interactions. Moreover, a lot of things are free in modern day prisons. There freee food, school, amenities etc. Prisons is western countries are comfortable, clean and a bit of luxury.
 
magnus2022 said:
Some people in prisons are homeless and have no friends outside prison life thereby making prisons the only place they see as home. Some prisoners are psychologically unbalanced to fit in day to day normal human interactions. Moreover, a lot of things are free in modern day prisons. There freee food, school, amenities etc. Prisons is western countries are comfortable, clean and a bit of luxury.
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I will address some of the misconceptions and distortions many of you state or imply when discussing the idea of “luxury” (a pretty blatant exaggeration) and prison. I am formerly incarcerated and no amount of material items one could have in prison would keep the general populace wanting to stay in there. However, we also have to understand that the Prison system is a business. California State Prisons are a corporation. They are privately operated with the said intention or duty to rehabilitate individuals who break the law. But we must take into account that you cannot expect a private company to desire to actually have a 0% recidivism rate. That would be a failed business model, right? They do provide just enough comfort to make the prison life comfortable for that rate to fluctuate around 60-50% (California rate). When I was there it was 85% recidivism. But let’s not mislead ourselves, if prisons wanted to rehabilitate they would offer so much more in terms of programs that would help with this process. Some of you conflate punishment and rehabilitation and those are two very different approaches.
 
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Entropyisprogression said:
I will address some of the misconceptions and distortions many of you state or imply when discussing the idea of “luxury” (a pretty blatant exaggeration) and prison. I am formerly incarcerated and no amount of material items one could have in prison would keep the general populace wanting to stay in there. However, we also have to understand that the Prison system is a business. California State Prisons are a corporation. They are privately operated with the said intention or duty to rehabilitate individuals who break the law. But we must take into account that you cannot expect a private company to what to actually have a 0% recidivism rate. That would be a failed business model, right? They do provide just enough comfort to make the prison life comfortable for that rate to fluctuate around 60-50% (California rate). When I was there it was 85% recidivism. But let’s not mislead ourselves, if prisons wanted to rehabilitate they would offer so much more in terms of programs that would help with this process. Some of you conflate punishment and rehabilitation and those are two very different approaches.
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What displeases a person may pleases another. It is wrong to generalize this issue. What you don't like may be another person's choice. Life challenges comes in diverse ways. Whst is not a problem to you may actually be another person's nightmare! Take note of this!.
 
@Shortie not everyone who enters prison is a criminal. It could be faulty to be there and then after the judge reveals that this person doesn't do anything wrong leave the prison. The reason behind this even if you commit a crime or not, means it is a faulty decision by policemen or you merit this, then no one employs you. Add to that, no one would be in a serious relationship because for them a man or woman leaving prison is something that doesn't merit being your partner. Rest of your life, they still repeat this story in front of you. All these factors let a person commit a crime to be back there because of a psychological situation.
 
magnus2022 said:
What displeases a person may pleases another. It is wrong to generalize this issue. What you don't like may be another person's choice. Life challenges comes in diverse ways. Whst is not a problem to you may actually be another person's nightmare! Take note of this!.
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It's very unfortunate that you read all @Entropyisprogression said without trying to understand him. Maybe you don't even understand what he was trying to say.

In summary, a prison can never be seen as a home for any reasonable individual.
 
magnus2022 said:
What displeases a person may pleases another. It is wrong to generalize this issue. What you don't like may be another person's choice. Life challenges comes in diverse ways. Whst is not a problem to you may actually be another person's nightmare! Take note of this!.
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magnus2022 said:
What displeases a person may pleases another. It is wrong to generalize this issue. What you don't like may be another person's choice. Life challenges comes in diverse ways. Whst is not a problem to you may actually be another person's nightmare! Take note of this!.
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You asked “if Prison should be less of a luxury?”. I addressed that question, specifically. I’m not sure where your rebuttal leads to other than referring to personal experience of suffering? Because those who impose suffering to others leave themselves to experience suffering for themselves, hence the very idea of sending people to prison for the crimes they commit. I’m not really sure what your argument is?
 
Heatman said:
It's very unfortunate that you read all @Entropyisprogression said without trying to understand him. Maybe you don't even understand what he was trying to say.

In summary, a prison can never be seen as a home for any reasonable individual.
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The response they gave doesn’t really address anything I stated. Still trying to figure out what their argument is, really.
 
magnus2022 said:
Some people in prisons are homeless and have no friends outside prison life thereby making prisons the only place they see as home. Some prisoners are psychologically unbalanced to fit in day to day normal human interactions. Moreover, a lot of things are free in modern day prisons. There freee food, school, amenities etc. Prisons is western countries are comfortable, clean and a bit of luxury.
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I suppose it depends on the person. I know for a fact some people love prison, just as he is saying. However, though, I'm sure it's a situation of there being a choice between being a 3rd or 4th class citizen and being in prison.

I mean, think about it, if you can't get a job (felony conviction etc.) and/or a home, then what good is being free, especially considering that western prisons aren't so bad compared to elsewhere?
 
Jason said:
I suppose it depends on the person. I know for a fact some people love prison, just as he is saying. However, though, I'm sure it's a situation of there being a choice between being a 3rd or 4th class citizen and being in prison.

I mean, think about it, if you can't get a job (felony conviction etc.) and/or a home, then what good is being free, especially considering that western prisons aren't so bad compared to elsewhere?
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The real question is why can't the person get a job or is it that he or she doesn't want to work because the person is dead lazy to start with?

As far as I'm concerned, there are more jobs in the Western World compared to what you get elsewhere. Over 60% of those in the developing countries are moving to the Western worlds to get better job and most of them do.
 
Heatman said:
The real question is why can't the person get a job or is it that he or she doesn't want to work because the person is dead lazy to start with?

As far as I'm concerned, there are more jobs in the Western World compared to what you get elsewhere. Over 60% of those in the developing countries are moving to the Western worlds to get better job and most of them do.
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The sad truth is that not everyone will want to work. Some will want to be in a place where they do less and eat and get protected. The human mind can be that unpredictable, and there is nothing anyone is going to do about it.
 
It's more to do with the mindset and attitude of the people than the luxury of the prison. Whatever image of prison that I get doesn't look luxurious to me. I don't have a personal experience. But I have images from magazine, I have visited some old prison as history tour and the ones that we see in movies and shows. They just have the basic of what every human needs and deserves.
But then it's a statistical thing that people from lower economic background are more into crime and land up in prison. In their outside World, they struggle to meet the basic requirements of life. They are better in prison.
And then there are people who are lazy and with no self respect and self esteem. They don't mind being a freeloader.
 
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